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      CommentAuthorBLUEFROG
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2009 edited
     
    We have a issued a point release for Deep. The newest version is Deep 1.1.0.
    (If you have Deep installed Sparkle should catch it for you and ask to update.)

    Of note in this release:
    • Ratings are now available to use and search with
    • Auto-completion of Tags as you type is in place (there you go, Rolf! 8^), and
    • Photoshop files should retain their Tags.

    Enjoy!
    • CommentAuthorenkaytee
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2009
     
    I'm sure it's a worthy update for some, but Deep is still exhibiting the issues which are stopping me from buying it. The selection of images is still painful - shift clicking has no effect for multiple selections from a group. More problematic for me is the limit on the number of folders shown in the 'location' part of the selection window. This STILL seems to be limited to a pre set number of folders which means that the folder structure in my main image storage volume is not all visible.

    If you were to sort these 2 issues out (as was indicated a few months ago), I'd buy it like a shot...!

    Thanks
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      CommentAuthorBLUEFROG
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2009
     
    Understood, enkaytee. This is a point release for some added OpenMeta support. Thanks for the comments.

    Jim
    • CommentAuthorenkaytee
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009
     
    OK - cool, thanks Jim...
    • CommentAuthorguest
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    <strong>Guest:</strong><br /><br />Since upgrading to 1.1, Deep is no longer working. When I mouse over a color it will give me the number of images that have that color. But when I select the color, no images appear.

    Also, isn't it possible to build a database of the colors of my images so that I don't have to wait 5 minutes every time I launch the program, waiting for Deep to search my disk? I understand it would need updating, but having to start all over again each time I launch the program makes it almost unusable.
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      CommentAuthorBLUEFROG
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2009
     
    @Guest:
    Is Deep the only thing you've updated on your machine?

    Deep shouldn't be "starting over" on every launch. When Deep launches, it writes a palette file to images it finds so it can match them. This is process can be interrupted and will pick up on the next launch.
    • CommentAuthormnisbett
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2009
     
    Can I re-download version 1.0 somewhere? 1.1 is just not working for me.
    Thanks
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    We generally don't remove the old versions from our web site, so you can look at the current url for 1.1, and figure out the 1.0 release: (ok - for this version it is not so easy - there is a '.0' i had to remove. )

    Right now we are at
    http://www.ironicsoftware.com/downloads/Deep_1.1.0.zip

    The url for 1.0 is:
    http://www.ironicsoftware.com/downloads/Deep_1.0.zip

    Note that since I changed the way the color DB works between 1 and 1.1, when you switch, it will have to recalculate colors for all documents. This can take a while, (like 5 min to an hour) depending on how many images you have.

    If there is something specific not working with 1.1, tell me and perhaps I can fix it soon - we are planning on releasing 1.1.1 in the next week.

    --Tom
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      CommentAuthorBLUEFROG
    • CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
     
    And here is Deep 1.1.1.

      Performance tuning

      New path display in tool tips for folders

      Fixed a rare bug where the display of certain images was a bit off in terms of color

      More support for tagging Adobe files

      See two short movies on how to use Deep at our web site.

    Check it out!
    • CommentAuthorguest
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
     
    <strong>Guest:</strong><br /><br />I am the guest who left the message on 4/27. I hadn't checked back until today. I installed 1.1.1 and the performance is outstanding! Deep no longer builds the database from scratch each time I launch, and I'm able to select the colors and other search items and have images show as they should.

    I'm very happy with the program.
    • CommentAuthorlevelbest
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009 edited
     
    Starting to use Deep. I am very happy so far. Immediately I see something I Need though. I am using Deep for sorting through massive duplicate files. And then keeping visually and tag-istically oriented. I think on the upper section of the window, where you have a single photo displayed as you click on the scroll line on the lower screen there could be more and very important information.

    1) You could show the file path. I could see where the image was located as I was viewing it.
    2) You could show the file size. Yes I know it is around the image you click on in the lower window, but having it in one place as I review the photo I select, would make good sense to me.
    3) I don't know if it is out of the author's scope or not, but it would also be nice to show EXIF data as well. You have all that space going to waste. Might as well make good use of some of it (yes I am aware that some space is a good thing). I tried adding this to a database I Was building once and I know there are source code EXIF products one can incorporate relatively easily. I did a quick search and I think this is one such product; EXIF-O-Matic.
    4) Definitely last but not least, please have an area where I can add folders. Allow me to drag images I select up onto the folders. This would allow me to use Deep as a tool to both find deep dupes but also to move them easily as well.

    Thanks

    David
    • CommentAuthorenkaytee
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2009
     
    Soooo....any timescales on the implementation of 'standard' file selection options in the results pane yet...I've bought Deep now but it's still frustrating not to be able to tag effectively in the program especially as the Drop Zone is now missing from Leap...I've actually resorted to using Punakea for quick & dirty tagging tasks...!
    • CommentAuthorenkaytee
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2009
     
    Actually...one other little annoyance is that there seems to be no logic to the 'sort order' in the results pane (and no apparent means of specifying one). It doesn't seem to be based on name, creation or modify date, and actually seems pretty random. As I often take a batch of images and name them sequentially, the ability to sort by name in Deep and then apply tags on a sequence of images would be useful...any thoughts?
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    I agree completely with enkaytee about these points:
    It would be helpful to have ALL the subfolders shown in the location area.
    It would be helpful to have the images load in the same sort order every time, preferably by subfolder after subfolder.
    Another request is the ability to exclude images by tag, like I can in Leap. That would be super helpful...

    But in general I love using all four apps. Great work guys - they are all well thought out and (otherwise) have great interface design.
    • CommentAuthorguest
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2009
     
    <strong>Guest:</strong><br /><br />Very cool program. However, I only use Aperture (not iPhoto). Therefore, this program does not search my aperture library. Any plans to make the aperture library readable and searchable for my canon .cr2 raw images?
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      CommentAuthorBLUEFROG
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2009
     
    Guest:

    Glad you're liking Deep. Unfortunately, we cannot make the Aperture library searchable - this is something that Apple would have to do (trust me, it's frustrating for me too since I use Aperture myself.)

    Sorry.
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      CommentAuthorBLUEFROG
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009 edited
     
    Here is a Snow Leopard update for Deep: Deep 1.2.0.

      Updated tagging for 10.6

      Fixed a few small bugs

      More support for tagging Adobe files

    Also, we have two short movies on how to use Deep at our web site.
    • CommentAuthorpl_svn
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009 edited
     
    ... no "two words" tagging? :'-(
    (typing a "space" closes the tag)


    ... oh... and still does not support DNG 5.5 (I know... I know... that's Apple and that's why I use LR ;-)
    • CommentAuthorsjk
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    ... no "two words" tagging? :'-(

    I don't use Deep, but you might try prefixing your multi-word tags with a " quote character. Related topics:

    • The multi word tagging method
    • More on the underscore / quotemark controversy
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      CommentAuthorBLUEFROG
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    sjk is correct. Prefixing with a quote lets you enter multiword Tags.
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    Two ways to type multiword tags in ironic products (soon Leap 2.5 too)

    "two words"

    and

    two%20words

    We had people who wanted tags with the _ character in them, so had to change.

    Digital Negative Format - DNG. One thinks that there should be a QuickLook plug-in for them?

    did not see one here, though...

    http://www.quicklookplugins.com/

    --Tom
    • CommentAuthorpl_svn
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009 edited
     
    thanks sjk, bluefrog and tom. gave a quick read at "the multi words tagging method" thread and... as someone wrote the "comma method" (the one, btw, I'm already using in LR) would be a much easier and natural option. anyway...

    tom: the issue with DNG is that... Deep does not see (list) those at all!!! :-(
    I have to use the 5.5 version because is the only one I can convert my Leica's (D-Lux 4) raws to and for some incomprehensible reason Apple *has chosen* (can't think of anything else, one year after this camera was released!!!) not to support either


    EDIT: sorry tom, you're right: it's "just" a preview (lacking of) issue. but it also means... Deep is useless for those files :'-(
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    There are two things you need for Deep to work: Quicklook plugin to see the file contents, and for dng files to be recognized as being an image.

    Deep searches for all types of files called 'public.image' in their content type tree:

    What do you get when you type mdls /Users/you/Pictures/someDnGfile.dng

    Here are the results for a jpg file.

    Snow-Pro:ironic tandersen$ mdls /Volumes/Data/Users/tandersen/ironic/website/trunk/images/1.jpg
    kBackupStampOM = "1.jpg__3428711__65728243"
    kIronicPalette = "xs.0.8.7.9.10.t8560b"
    kMDItemBitsPerSample = 32
    kMDItemColorSpace = "RGB"
    kMDItemContentCreationDate = 2008-03-10 11:34:29 -0400
    kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2008-03-10 11:34:30 -0400
    kMDItemContentType = "public.jpeg"
    kMDItemContentTypeTree = (
    "public.jpeg",
    "public.image",
    "public.data",
    "public.item",
    "public.content"
    )
    kMDItemDisplayName = "1.jpg"
    ...
    ..


    If the content type for dng files is not set the content type will be something like 'dyn.xxxxxxxx'. If it is a dynamic type, that's good. All it would take is one application to tell the OS that dng files are images, and Deep would find them.

    For Deep to see them, there needs to be a quick look plugin for them. Third parties have written plugins for indesign files.

    --Tom
    • CommentAuthorpl_svn
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    kMDItemAcquisitionMake = "LEICA"
    kMDItemAcquisitionModel = "D-LUX 4"
    kMDItemAltitude = 128.4
    kMDItemAperture = 2.526069
    kMDItemAuthors = (
    "paolo savonuzzi"
    )
    kMDItemContentCreationDate = 2009-10-24 17:27:32 +0200
    kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2009-10-24 17:27:32 +0200
    kMDItemContentType = "com.adobe.raw-image"
    kMDItemContentTypeTree = (
    "com.adobe.raw-image",
    "public.camera-raw-image",
    "public.image",
    "public.data",
    "public.item",
    "public.content"
    )
    kMDItemCopyright = "©2009 paolo savonuzzi"
    kMDItemDisplayName = "091024_L1020831.dng"
    kMDItemEXIFGPSVersion = "2.2"
    kMDItemEXIFVersion = "2.2.1"
    kMDItemExposureTimeSeconds = 0.02
    kMDItemFlashOnOff = 0
    kMDItemFNumber = 2.4
    kMDItemFocalLength = 7.9
    kMDItemFSContentChangeDate = 2009-10-24 17:27:32 +0200
    kMDItemFSCreationDate = 2009-10-24 17:27:32 +0200
    kMDItemFSCreatorCode = ""
    kMDItemFSFinderFlags = 0
    kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon = 0
    kMDItemFSInvisible = 0
    kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden = 0
    kMDItemFSIsStationery = 0
    kMDItemFSLabel = 0
    kMDItemFSName = "091024_L1020831.dng"
    kMDItemFSNodeCount = 0
    kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID = 20
    kMDItemFSOwnerUserID = 501
    kMDItemFSSize = 9652350
    kMDItemFSTypeCode = ""
    kMDItemGPSMapDatum = "WGS-84"
    kMDItemHasAlphaChannel = 0
    kMDItemISOSpeed = 80
    kMDItemKind = "Digital Negative file"
    kMDItemLastUsedDate = 2009-10-24 17:27:32 +0200
    kMDItemLatitude = 45.481
    kMDItemLongitude = 9.199955940246582
    kMDItemOrientation = 1
    kMDItemPixelCount = 0
    kMDItemPixelHeight = 0
    kMDItemPixelWidth = 0
    kMDItemRedEyeOnOff = 0
    kMDItemResolutionHeightDPI = 0
    kMDItemResolutionWidthDPI = 0
    kMDItemTimestamp = "12:51:41.00"
    kMDItemUsedDates = (
    "2009-10-24 00:00:00 +0200"
    )
    • CommentAuthorpl_svn
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009 edited
     
    ... it seems (as I'm reading in an Adobe Forum topic) this "Apple issue" with DNG 5.5 only applies to cameras (or lenses) using its new "lens correction" features, as my D-Lux 4 does :-(

    now I see why new Leica models will bundle Adobe LightRoom! ;-p

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